Trevor sits down with comedian Atsuko Okatsuka for a lively, wide-ranging conversation about identity, humor, and finding your voice. Bonding over their shared immigrant experience, the two explore how feeling like an outsider can become a powerful lens for comedy.

Along the way, Atsuko shares personal stories that are as hilarious as they are revealing and reflects on comedy as a way of making sense of the past and connecting across cultures.

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00:00:00 – True Crime Is Just Bad Filmmaking With Real Victims

00:01:29 – TSA Agents: America's Most Committed Volunteers

00:02:16 – South Africans Would Simply Not Show Up

00:04:42 – The Twinkle in Trevor's Eye (Atsuko Explains)

00:05:27 – The Doorway Conversation That Started a Friendship

00:07:23 – What If Game Night Was Just… Talking?

00:08:34 – Japan Disneyland Has No Fast Pass. Not Even for the CEO.

00:13:26 – Born in Taiwan, Raised in Japan, Kidnapped to LA

00:15:49 – Speed Dating, Schizophrenia & a Student OBGYN Uncle

00:19:00 – My Mom Was the Girl from The Ring

00:22:34 – Nobody Writes a Book About Martin Smith

00:26:22 – The Zap Theory: Symphonies vs. World Wars

00:31:09 – My Mom Thought the Chinese Government Had Microphones (They Might)

00:38:56 – Trevor's Ice Cream Problem (And the Apple Pie Incident)

00:50:47 – The Thing We Actually Lost When We Left Church

00:59:56 – "Aren't All the Comedians Already Taken?" — Finding Stand-Up on Craigslist

01:07:36 – Craigslist Was Healthy Tech. Then the Killer Showed Up.

01:17:30 – Why Trevor Stopped Hosting the Grammys

01:37:37 – Blowing Up at the Right Speed (And Being Afraid to Mess It Up)

01:52:02 – "Tadaima" — Coming Home to Japan for the First Time